This might take a while!!!

Show us that box of bits in your shed!
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Enjoying the post, cracking engine pics, nice to see it all laid out on the work bench.
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Keep the photos coming Doug :)
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Is it these bits you're referring to?
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That's it, I've tried to show it in these pics. Barrel loose assembled onto the crank case, the barrel casting seems to come a long way into the casing and with no real shaping/flow and is right in the transfer port area. The crank is at SEP now so I can't connect up the piston and see how much of that area the skirt runs down onto. I know that area of the barrel is supporting the piston skirt around BDC but have you ever tried any re-profiling of that bit and do you think it would have any impact?

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PS see that step in pic 1 into the centre transfer port :shock:
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500bernie wrote:Keep the photos coming Doug :)
Will do Bernie, I'm enjoying this :D Might not be when the bills start arriving :?
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Luders wrote:I've been through 3 dremels this year, they're shit, but cheap and do a decent job while they're working :)

Have you looked up the info on what to take out and fill on these cases?
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Some people trim that section down like this

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I use shorter pistons with less skirt, so don't mess about with it on my engines and I'm not convinced you gain much by grinding it away.
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Thanks for that pic, my other worry would be how altering the shape might change the piston clearance when it's hot? Anyway, think I'll leave it. I've got another set of barrels that I might play with a bit more over next year and can always try going a bit further with them and trying them in the future. Got enough grinding and filling to be on with in the meantime.
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I don’t mess with them and get plenty of power from my race engines. I'm about to start my latest soon, so dyno figures will be available in a couple of months.
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Not much progress with the engine this week, but I'm keeping the postman busy :D

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Work on the first barrel, the Dremel works pretty well.. Still debating with myself whether to do the crankcase flowing work but so far so good. Hope all this effort and ringing ears makes a difference [-o<

Hard to see but black marker showing how much needs to come off around the edges of the side and rear transfers
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A bit clearer (ignore old gasket glue and odd black paint inside the ports, not sure what that's doing there?)
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First transfer done
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Quicker work on the rear
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Last one sorted
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Bit of work just to straighten some of the edges, then onto the next one..
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The crankcases are worth doing
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I can see definitely see why. The only bit putting me off is the filling, trusting in chemical metal (out of interest what brand do you use?). Years ago a rep from JB weld came to us and showed us a picture of a valve seat repaired back into an alloy head using filler to repair the surround, it was pretty impressive. My worry is that with combustion, expansion etc eventually it comes out, that's a fair lump to come adrift into the crankcases on the KR.

I'd love to do it to see the effect, but as it's a reliable road engine I'm wanting I'm balancing the risk really. For a race engine I appreciate every few horses is worth more risk up to a point.

Once I've got both barrels done and the cases matched up I'll see.
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You don't have to fill if you have any reservations, just do the flow work.

I use the JB Stick to do all my filling and so long as you prep the area, it sticks like a limpit to a rock. Never had a failure.
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Both barrels done so they can go off for plating now.

Think I will flow the cases but leave out the filling. I've got my spare motor to go at next year so think I'll have a go at those cases and try the JB weld as well.

A list as longer than an arm to be getting through now so I'll be busy enough..
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