CDI Loom connectors

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CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:37 pm

I received a replacement zeeltrontic CDI complete with plugs, but when i checked my loom it has completely different style plugs on the CDI

The zeel has 1 x 3 pin plug and 2 square plugs 1 x 6 pn 1 x 4 pin. I have search for pis of the loom and this seems to be correct; But my CDI has 1 x 3 pin round plug and 3 x oblong plugs 1 x 2 pin and 2 x 4 pin. The oblong plugs have each wire numbered on the loom side.

The bike is a UK model J reg KR1s C3, Nippon Denso CDI box (I haven't removed it yet to get the serial numbers)

Any suggestions on why my loom/CDI is different ?

My immediate reaction is buy a 2nd hand loom, as there are lots advertised on ebay, but I would rather know what I have on my bike

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by maccas » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:49 pm

That does sound odd Phil. All the KR cdi's i've seen have the three plugs you mention, not 4 plugs in total.

Something a miss there!

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by 500bernie » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:35 pm

Hi Phil
Sounds like someone has previously had a problem and replaced the connectors with whatever he had available.
Just replace the connectors back to standard.
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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:39 pm

500bernie wrote:Hi Phil
Sounds like someone has previously had a problem and replaced the connectors with whatever he had available.
Just replace the connectors back to standard.
Cheers
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Thanx

Any suggestions on a supplier for the 2 that I need ?

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by 500bernie » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:02 pm

Hi Phil
Do the connectors look to be the same type/size as the ones on the Zeeltronic?
If so, you will only need the connector bodies (the contacts are removable), Let me know I should have a couple on a spare loom.
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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:38 am

500bernie wrote:Hi Phil
Do the connectors look to be the same type/size as the ones on the Zeeltronic?
If so, you will only need the connector bodies (the contacts are removable), Let me know I should have a couple on a spare loom.
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Sadly the pins look different. I need both male and female elements so i can make the existing cdi a std fit and also make the loom a std fit.
If you are willing to sell you existing loom i will only snip the 4 pin and 6 pin connectors and solder them into my existing loom and fix the old CDI at a later date

Cheers again
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Post by Luders » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:55 am

Speak to Borut

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:10 am

Luders wrote:Speak to Borut
Bought a set. Cheers everyone. Oooh now what order do the friggin wires go !!!! :-)

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Can anyone lend me a std KR1s CDI I can use as a template to make sure I get the new connectors and wires in the correct order. I'm in South Manchester so anyone local I can collect from or anyone further afield I will pay postage

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Post by 500bernie » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:01 am

Hi Phil
I think I have a spare in the loft, I will have a look today for you. If not I could take a few close up photos if that would help?
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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by DougB » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:16 am

Dug my spare out Phil, are these pics any use?

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by mellorp » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:36 pm

Thanx Doug. I have found an auto electrician willing to help and I now have a set of spare plugs from Borut. Hopefully we can get the CDI wired up correctly and the zeeltronic plugged in as well.

BTW are you going to Cadwell classicbike trackdays, I'm riding on Saturday 9th July and the TZR "Coolest Track day ever" track day at Donington Park June 16th ?

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by DougB » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:41 am

Hi Phil,

Yep, I've got myself signed up for Cadwell for both days, be good to see you there as well. I'd love to go to the Donny meet but had plans already that weekend, shame as all those 2 strokes playing around would be great to see!

Hope you get the Zeel working ok, if you have any trouble at all let me know, can always use mine to check wiring & setup stuff (Zeelprog is great but can be a bit finicky, especially the PV setup).

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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by 500bernie » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:12 pm

Hi Doug
Where did you end up setting your valves at?
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Re: CDI Loom connectors

Post by DougB » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:47 pm

Hi Bernie this is the setup I'm using at the moment if it's any help. I found the test open and test close options wouldn't always work, took a few goes & clicks before the motor would respond but once I got these figures it was fine.

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